tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post1043649394625748752..comments2023-10-26T04:36:11.513-05:00Comments on For His Glory: Love Wins: A Review on Rob Bells BookGio and Larie Marinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09446566733688857834noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-77409091524798890902011-04-15T22:31:47.517-05:002011-04-15T22:31:47.517-05:00Thanks Gio for the review. I'm just shocked th...Thanks Gio for the review. I'm just shocked that this made front page news on Time Magazine, "What if there's no hell?" (April 25, 2011). My answer to that question is that there would be a lot less fear-based, ultimately powerless Christianity. Fear might be enough to get people to show up at a big, entertaining church service for an hour a week, but it's not enough to motivate lasting formation of Christ-like patience, purity, kindness, self-control and the rest. <br /><br />I have to point the finger at us Adventists as well, because although we might criticize other Christians for fear, we sometimes frame the Second Coming and the Unpardonable Sin as fear-based motivations as well. <br /><br />So much guilt and fear in the churches, and so little of the true love of Christ. Maybe that's why Paul prayed the Ephesians 3 prayer!BGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16869088174659152317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-47239949419960996122011-03-19T22:00:43.643-05:002011-03-19T22:00:43.643-05:00@anonymous, Fair enough. Have a good night and God...@anonymous, Fair enough. Have a good night and God bless you always. One day we'll meet in heaven and we can find out and laugh about who was correct. lolGio and Larie Marinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446566733688857834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-47227937751981427232011-03-19T21:28:32.543-05:002011-03-19T21:28:32.543-05:00Nah, I don't need to study the state of the de...Nah, I don't need to study the state of the dead; it has no pertinent value to my daily walk with Jesus. It seems to for you, and that is fine. But not being SDA, it doesn't concern me in the least. I guess I will find out the truth of it once I am dead myself! :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-15843920099257040602011-03-19T17:19:11.780-05:002011-03-19T17:19:11.780-05:00@anonymous a person has to stand for something oth...@anonymous a person has to stand for something otherwise he/she falls for everything. Don't be so open minded your brain falls out. ;) once again if you would like to study it together we can strictly from the Bible.Gio and Larie Marinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446566733688857834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-4320826424870191642011-03-19T16:51:36.121-05:002011-03-19T16:51:36.121-05:00The difference being that you base a lot of theolo...The difference being that you base a lot of theology on those presumptions, whereas I do not! ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-8779717346975725882011-03-19T13:20:03.850-05:002011-03-19T13:20:03.850-05:00@anonymous but you can't presume I don't ...@anonymous but you can't presume I don't either. We can study it together if you like. :)Gio and Larie Marinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446566733688857834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-52920648571824021472011-03-19T12:03:20.193-05:002011-03-19T12:03:20.193-05:00It's awfully arrogant to presume *you* know th...It's awfully arrogant to presume *you* know the state of the dead! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-37681927529354096722011-03-18T22:09:57.800-05:002011-03-18T22:09:57.800-05:00I'll be writing a another review on his book b...I'll be writing a another review on his book because of he has a limited conception of God's power and love. Will explain in the next review over the weekend.Gio and Larie Marinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446566733688857834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-75919733886354329302011-03-18T18:17:54.932-05:002011-03-18T18:17:54.932-05:00@ Jonathan - thats a good point but blogs, diaries...@ Jonathan - thats a good point but blogs, diaries, and journals don't make money unless you publish them, which is possible exactly what he did. <br /><br />He might have been studying with the church of LDS. They also believe that everyone will be in heaven. Though you might be a servant (for bad Mormons) or preparing to be god (for really good Mormons) everyone will be there. <br /><br />Thanks for the review…just another book I know i won't read. :)KC A.http://www.seminarylive.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-66857423482713992882011-03-17T09:11:11.567-05:002011-03-17T09:11:11.567-05:00Yes, Rob is very bold and now that I read your com...Yes, Rob is very bold and now that I read your comment I chuckle that his book is like one long Nooma video. It is more like a conversation starter in which he ask plenty of questions and lets his readers decide what indeed they believe. <br /><br />He does though make strides that others fail to make but you are correct some questions demand, at least, an attempt to an answer.Gio and Larie Marinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446566733688857834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-46499968192691203622011-03-17T06:46:46.828-05:002011-03-17T06:46:46.828-05:00hey gio,
thanks for the post, it was very insight...hey gio,<br /><br />thanks for the post, it was very insightful. rob has to be a very bold individual to step outside the box of traditional christian thinking on hell. he's good at asking questions and making people think.<br /><br />i guess its a new age when individuals write books while still being confused themselves about issues (isn't that what blogs, diaries, and journals are for?). questions are good, but what good are questions without answers? especially when the bible is clear about the answers. who knows, maybe this will lead him to take a look at other aspects connected to heaven and hell, such as what happens to people when they die, etc.jonathan peinadonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-53897923996320841842011-03-16T10:05:46.136-05:002011-03-16T10:05:46.136-05:00@Rodlie, I say he isn't a universalist because...@Rodlie, I say he isn't a universalist because he is not dogmatic about any one scenario except that he rejects an eternally burning hell. <br /><br />All his other options that he espouses are "could it be" type. He is not sure on any other. I would say confused hence he is grappling hard on how to balance ultimate freedom that God gives us to choose Him or not while rejecting the common view of Hell. <br /><br />It all revolves on not understanding death. I personally believe if he truly understand death he would see truly a clearer concept that Love truly wins in the end.Gio and Larie Marinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446566733688857834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8799579577834310912.post-72099653445505062552011-03-16T08:49:57.771-05:002011-03-16T08:49:57.771-05:00Hmmm...very interesting. So you wouldn't label...Hmmm...very interesting. So you wouldn't label that as universalism? Kind of sounds like it to me. Seems like he would be good to go if he would just accept the Hebrew understanding of death--that death is a sleep--and that people will ultimately be redeemed and be in heaven or be destroyed. That would dovetail perfectly with everything else he seems to be suggesting. Thanks for the post.Rodlie Ortizhttp://www.modernekklesia.comnoreply@blogger.com